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DennisDawg wrote:I also dealt with Mark a little, and more so with many of the folks who were involved with him in the two successful and the last failed Calico Cleanup. It ended up being a large event, with a lot of personalities and entities involved that and that made for some drama (for lack of a better term).

So, my advice would be, if you want to plan a clean up, find a place that very much needs it, then contact the BLM or Forest Service, whomever it is that has jurisdiction and see what can be done on a small scale where insurance, paperwork, publicity and vendors are not an issue.

Do that one time, maybe having planning meetings with minutes and all so as to document how it was done and all, then try a second time and expand is some, inviting more people and all that, expanding on what you’d done.

There are plenty of areas that need picked up or fixed up and with the budgets as they are, I am sure most entities would welcome some help. Some have groups in them that might help, Friends of Last Chance Canyon in the EL Pasos for example.

I’d be happy to help as well/

ssc wrote:We can sure bag trash, but how do we remove TV's and washing machines? Anyone have a large truck?

ssc wrote:Thanks for the info. I will make a few calls as time permits. Though I doubt I would have time for meetings etc,. . .

ssc wrote: We can sure bag trash, but how do we remove TV's and washing machines? Anyone have a large truck?

DennisDawg wrote:The problem often becomes less how to remove them and more on what to do with them. If they are on public lands now, then the entity that has jurisdiction will want you to ensure the items are disposed of properly for the areas involved. The example of televisions are electronic waste and in some areas require special disposal processes. Other types of materials would or may have similar issues.

Chazz Layne wrote:I believe the California consumers have already paid the price for this with the "you're buying electronics so we're going to punish you" tax they put on everything with a power switch. Last time I hauled a load to a dump out there they had an area set up for such things, no extra charge.

DennisDawg wrote:

Chazz Layne wrote:I believe the California consumers have already paid the price for this with the "you're buying electronics so we're going to punish you" tax they put on everything with a power switch. Last time I hauled a load to a dump out there they had an area set up for such things, no extra charge.

It is not about the cost but rather the process when removing waste from public lands in some areas. That process can have requirements on how it is documented, removed, handled and then disposed and more so with waste that has been determined to be hazardous.

This differs (sometimes) from an individual who is disposing of their own waste materials, usually from their own property and usually non-commercial.

ssc wrote:We can sure bag trash, but how do we remove TV's and washing machines? Anyone have a large truck?

Regards, Steve

ssc wrote:Unreal. After reading all that has been said, I guess it was a good thought and I will leave it at that. I do not have the time nor the inclination to deal with the idiotic bureaucracy of the CCC. I guess no good deed goes unpunished. I sure do breath a sigh of relief when I cross the Colorado River. With that said, I am planning an escape from the CCC today and will be in freemans land this evening. If anyone wants to shoot or have some fun in Havasu, I will be there until Sun or Monday. Feel free to contact me.

Regards, Steve