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raYGunn wrote:

gon2srf wrote:I didn't start the political thread, raYGunn did.

Hey now, this is a public service announcement! Don't go dirtying up my thread.

BlueFJ wrote:Whoa Scott, where did THAT come from??!! I won't regret anything. People will vote their conscience no matter what I say. ...and if they don't vote, that's a vote too... it says they don't want either candidate.

It came from this:

BlueFJ wrote:I'm soooo over it!

BlueFJ wrote:...and if they don't vote, that's a vote too...

I couldn't disagree more.

I have to agree with Scott completely - someone who doesn't vote isn't making a statement, they are avoiding a adult responsibility that is crucial to the health and welfare of this country.

I got up at 4:30am this morning and looked outside, it was windy, cold and pouring out. Good I thought, smaller lines at the polls. (Selfish me ) I dressed in rain gear and drove to my local Boys and Girls Club expecting to see people already in line but found an empty parking lot. A few minutes later the first volunteers arrived and I claimed my space at the front of the line. By 6:30am the line began to grow and so did the excitement. My wife joined me a few minutes before the polls opened at 7:00 a.m. at which point the line was out the door and down the block. It was refreshing to see so many people out voting. I said hi to a lot of neighbors then my wife and I headed to our local Starbucks to get our free coffee Starbucks is offering to those who voted.

There are a lot of important issues on the ballot this year that will have a profound effect on our future. Go vote, you'll feel good about it and get a free coffee for your effort!

FYI-

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Vote on Tuesday and get a free tall brewed coffee from Starbucks
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I read everything there is to read about every proposition and measure in the State of California, and voted at 12:30 pm today.

I voted this morning. I had a sticker but it god blasted off in a spray of champagne. WOOOOO!!!

America - what a country !!!

I can vote AND get free food ???

Long live democracy !!!

I was a little surprised at the way they count votes in my area - after you are finished, they put them in a shredder...should I be concerned ???

(Voted earlier today - no lines at my polling place)

I penciled in my owm name for president.

cruiserlarry wrote:Not voting displays apathy, ignorance, and a disregard for the importance of government of, for, and by the people, IMO.

...someone who doesn't vote isn't making a statement, they are avoiding a adult responsibility that is crucial to the health and welfare of this country.

Now, I don't mean to step on anybody's toes here or start some kind of debate but some of the above statements got me to thinking about some things that some may not have considered.

I'm sure this may be true of some who choose not to vote, but we shouldn't lump everyone who doesn't into that catagory. Let's consider a different viewpoint. I know many folks who, due to thier sincere religious beliefs and faith, remain neutral in political affairs. They do not interfere with the right of others to vote; neither do they in any way campaign against political elections. They respect and cooperate with the authorities who are duly elected in such elections. As to whether they will personally vote for someone running in an election, each Christian makes a decision based on his Bible-trained conscience and an understanding of his responsibility to God and to the State. In making this personal decision, they consider a number of factors.

For one, Jesus Christ said of his followers: “They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world.” (John 17:14) Many Christians take this principle seriously. Being “no part of the world,” they are neutral in the political affairs of the world.

When religions get involved in politics, the result is often division among their members. In imitation of Jesus Christ, some avoid becoming involved in politics and thus maintain their Christian unity. People should recognize, though, that in matters of individual conscience such as this, each person has to make his own decision based on what they believe is right in their heart. To say that anyone who dosen't vote for these or similar reasons is avoiding a adult responsibility or is ignorant is a very unfair statement.

On the other hand I've known ones who really had no strong convictions about anything, who did display apathy, ignorance, and a disregard for others. Those are the kind of people I can find fault with.

Uh oh, religion and politics... run!!!

BorregoWrangler wrote:

cruiserlarry wrote:Not voting displays apathy, ignorance, and a disregard for the importance of government of, for, and by the people, IMO.

...someone who doesn't vote isn't making a statement, they are avoiding a adult responsibility that is crucial to the health and welfare of this country.

Now, I don't mean to step on anybody's toes here or start some kind of debate but some of the above statements got me to thinking about some things that some may not have considered.

I'm sure this may be true of some who choose not to vote, but we shouldn't lump everyone who doesn't into that catagory. Let's consider a different viewpoint. I know many folks who, due to thier sincere religious beliefs and faith, remain neutral in political affairs. They do not interfere with the right of others to vote; neither do they in any way campaign against political elections. They respect and cooperate with the authorities who are duly elected in such elections. As to whether they will personally vote for someone running in an election, each Christian makes a decision based on his Bible-trained conscience and an understanding of his responsibility to God and to the State. In making this personal decision, they consider a number of factors.

For one, Jesus Christ said of his followers: “They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world.” (John 17:14) Many Christians take this principle seriously. Being “no part of the world,” they are neutral in the political affairs of the world.

When religions get involved in politics, the result is often division among their members. In imitation of Jesus Christ, some avoid becoming involved in politics and thus maintain their Christian unity. People should recognize, though, that in matters of individual conscience such as this, each person has to make his own decision based on what they believe is right in their heart. To say that anyone who dosen't vote for these or similar reasons is avoiding a adult responsibility or is ignorant is a very unfair statement.

On the other hand I've known ones who really had no strong convictions about anything, who did display apathy, ignorance, and a disregard for others. Those are the kind of people I can find fault with.

Uh oh, religion and politics... run!!!

If you thought the picture rendering thread got hot, just wait a couple posts. Better lock this thread now.

About last night: Hands down, the best concession and acceptance speeches I have ever witnessed.