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Re: OAUSA Net - 6/4/2020 - Destination Hunting

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:51 pm
by KA9WDX
I mainly hunted for food, something to eat, and it also helped me get into the outdoors, or close to nature, but I also do that walking or biking down the bike/hiking trail, and I don't really care for the type of hunter that only hunts for the trophy, hunting only to get that trophy to mount on the wall, but if the person eats the game also, then it makes me feel better about it, and of course, I don't like the "poacher" type of hunter, the kind that shoots an animal just for the tusks, horns, or ivory, like elephant, rhinoceros, etc....or anything illegal, which I'm reasonably sure that none of "us" do those illegal types of hunting. I've only hunted in Wisconsin, so I couldn't choose anything in that poll, since neither Wisconsin or the Midwest, was one of the choices, but would've chosen Wisconsin or Midwest if one of those would've been a choice, however, I haven't hunted lately because the people that I hunted with either passed away, or have "retired" from hunting due to their age. I won't talk because I tried and no one heard me, even though it showed on-screen that my transmission was being sent out. Have a great weekend.

Re: OAUSA Net - 6/4/2020 - Destination Hunting

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:53 pm
by lrsrngr
What makes "gun culture" hard for Californians. Examples of current legislation being presented during this Covid 19 legislative season:

SB = Senate Bill
AB = Assembly Bill

Senate Appropriations Committee update on 09 JUN. Call in and voice your opinion:
The Senate Appropriations Committee can be reached at

State Capitol, Room 2206
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: (916) 651-4101
We will continue to receive position letters on all legislation via the advocacy portal and by mail and email: https://sapro.senate.ca.gov/position-letters.

SB-914: Existing law prohibits the purchase or receipt of a firearm by, or the sale or transfer of a firearm to, any person who does not have a firearm safety certificate, as specified. Existing law also prohibits the sale or transfer of a firearm by a licensed firearm dealer to a person under 21 years of age. Existing law exempts from these provisions the sale, transfer, purchase, or receipt of a firearm, other than a handgun, to or by a person without a firearm safety certificate, but in possession of a valid, unexpired hunting license, as specified. Existing law also exempts the sale or transfer of a firearm, other than a handgun or semiautomatic centerfire rifle, to a person 18 years of age or older who possesses a valid, unexpired hunting license, as specified. http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces ... 20200SB914

SB 1175: (1) Existing law requires the Fish and Game Commission, in cooperation with the Department of Food and Agriculture, to adopt regulations governing both (A) the entry, importation, possession, transportation, keeping, confinement, or release of any and all wild animals that will be or that have been imported into this state, and (B) the possession of all other wild animals. Existing law requires the regulations to be designed to prevent damage to the native wildlife or agricultural interests of this state resulting from the existence at large of these wild animals, and to provide for the welfare of wild animals and the safety of the public.
This bill would require the Department of Fish and Wildlife to immediately suspend any authorization to import a wild animal species into the state when the evidence suggests zoonotic transmission from this species, or a closely related species, could be responsible for a novel, readily transmissible human disease in order to protect the public health. The bill would prohibit the department from authorizing the importation of any individual animals of a wild animal species that could be responsible for zoonotic transmission of a readily transmissible human disease until a robust testing protocol is implemented to ensure that all individual animals subject to an authorization are not carriers. The bill would also authorize the department to take additional measures pursuant to its authority related to wild animal species necessary to protect the public health. The bill would require the department, as applicable, to revise the list of animals that may not be imported or transported into this state that the department is required to publish from time to time as changes arise. https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/face ... 0200SB1175

AB 2847: SECTION 1. The Legislature finds and declares all of the following:
(a) Infectious diseases cause about one-quarter of human deaths. Of these deaths, almost 60 percent are from zoonotic diseases and over 70 percent of these zoonoses are from wildlife. Trade of wildlife has led to novel zoonotic pathogens that threaten human and animal health, food security and production, and biological diversity with implications for economic stability. Experts, including from the World Health Organization, agree that future human pandemics will likely be caused by wildlife and be zoonotic in nature. In the last 40 years, the worst pandemics were all zoonotic or vector in origin, including the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), avian influenza, swine influenza, Ebola virus, and Zika virus. The three epidemic and pandemic level coronavirus outbreaks in the last two decades (SARS, Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS), and COVID-19) were likely caused by transmission between two animal species followed by transmission to humans with cases initially spreading due to multiple species in close contact with each other and humans simultaneously. Therefore, rapid response to potential carrier species imports and exports will provide additional protection to viral spread.
(b) There are existing policies and law to protect the state’s flora and fauna from nonnative and invasive species. Wildlife are usually imported into the state under the authority of a permit issued by the Department of Fish and Wildlife, among others. While that permit may include some form of health certification, it is unclear that the current processes in practice incorporate or identify all likely diseases that represent risks to humans and wildlife. The Veterinary Public Health Section of the State Department of Public Health also issues permits for certain species of wildlife imported into the state. The COVID-19 pandemic highlights the need to review existing practices to ensure that wildlife imported into the state do not present a risk of disease to humans or wildlife.
(c) Between 2007 and 2014, Savanna elephant populations declined by 30 percent, between 1993 and 2014, African lion populations are estimated to have declined by 43 percent, and since 1960 the Black rhino population has declined by 97.6 percent. In order to address these diminishing numbers, California must address our contribution toward their imperilment. The goal goals of these provisions are to reduce the demand for new trophies of certain wild animal species, and not to interfere with the possession or sale of existing jewelry or other small personal items containing parts of these species that are otherwise legal. https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/face ... 0200SB1175

Re: OAUSA Net - 6/4/2020 - Destination Hunting

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:03 pm
by lrsrngr
Even NPR, and they are not necessarily a proponent of hunting or even private firearm ownership did a pretty "telling" expose highlighting the fact that without hunters and the "sportsman" taxes collected "conservation" will suffer. They ask who will be willing to pay and the article eludes to the free-loading of all the anti-hunter groups who do not want to pay extra fees for conservation and they ask, "Who then?" This was a very interesting insight for this news outlet and worth watching.

The article: https://www.npr.org/2018/03/20/59300180 ... nservation

The video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... e=emb_logo

Re: OAUSA Net - 6/4/2020 - Destination Hunting

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:25 pm
by KA9WDX
I've hunted a few rabbits and squirrels when I was a teenager, and actually had eaten rabbit stew and rabbit soup, and squirrel stew and soup, and I've hunted deer, mostly driving, occasionally posting, and actually never even killed a deer, but since I participated I got a share of the meat...I did take one shot at a deer that was running full speed, through the brush and trees which caused the deer to stop for a second, just long enough for me to load another cartridge into my lever action rifle, then it took off across the path, but I didn't take the shot because my uncle was posting just beyond my eye sight, so I didn't want to take the shot, which would've been a great shot for me, or an easy shot for me, but not wanting to take the chance of hitting my uncle, I didn't take the shot...I found out later that my uncle had gone to a different place, so I could've taken the shot after all, but I've shot partridges, pheasants, well, actually I think that they were actually called ruffed grouse...and would shoot a few, just enough for a few meals.. I've used a 12-gauge shotgun, a 20-gauge shotgun, a Model 94 Winchester 30/30 lever action for deer, since I liked the short barrel so I could take it in the brush, and a 22 for shooting small game.