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Need tire recommendations

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:53 pm
by sdnative
I am thinking about ditching my BFG ATs in favor of something more aggressive. I originally traded my BFG MT for the AT with the goals of less road noise (accomplished), better MPG (no change really) and a better ride (actually worse now). Someone is interested in buying my ATs, so I figured I could use the opportunity to get into something else.

I had the BFG MT 255/85R16 which I really liked, except I was worried the sidewall would fold under the rim and come off the bead on steep of-camber spots. In addition, they were getting pretty chewed up due to them being so narrow and my truck being so heavy.

I traded these for the BFG AT 295/75R16 (same diameter as the MT) which to be honest I can't stand. They take a ton of weight to balance (and never stay balanced for too long), ride really rough when cold and do not grip as well as I had hoped (I felt uncomfortable on a couple of hill climbs that never were a problem before).

I am considering going with a 285/75R16 or possibly back to the 255/85R16. So far I am looking at the BFG MT KM2, Toyo MT, or Goodyear MTR, but would consider others. My usage would be 90% road /10% off road, with the off road use use mainly soft and hard packed dirt, with a little rock use. I don't mind sacrificing road manners slightly if I know the off road ability will be there when I need it.

Oh, and they have to stop a stray bullet from the negligent unintelligent common folk gun owner :lol:

Anyone have any opinions? I figured no one here would, but I thought I'd give it a try. :geek:

Re: Need tire recommendations

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:22 pm
by cruiserlarry
I'd suggest considering the ProComp Xtreme Mud-Terrain 285/75R16 - Excellent tire, three ply sidewalls, great tread design, and relatively quiet on the road, especially compared to BFG MTs of the past...

The new BFG M/T KM2 has an excellent tread design as well, although we haven't heard much feedback about their off-road prowess or on-road noise level...

Re: Need tire recommendations

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:27 pm
by BorregoWrangler
I'm leaning toward the BFG MT KM2. I've heard plenty of good things about them. In fact, that's probably what I'll go with when its time to change out my Mickey Thompson Baja Claws. Road noise doesn't bother me much since I'm running in a soft top Jeep anyway. Larry has a good suggestion with the ProComps as well.

Re: Need tire recommendations

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:46 pm
by salad_man
I have also heard good things from the new bfg muds. A friends dad has them and he really likes them, good on rocks as well.

Re: Need tire recommendations

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:10 pm
by unwiredadventures
sdnative wrote:I am considering going with a 285/75R16 or possibly back to the 255/85R16. So far I am looking at the BFG MT KM2, Toyo MT, or Goodyear MTR, but would consider others. My usage would be 90% road /10% off road, with the off road use use mainly soft and hard packed dirt, with a little rock use. I don't mind sacrificing road manners slightly if I know the off road ability will be there when I need it.
I like my Toyo MTs. They just seem to grip everything so well. Sand, dirt, rocks and snow. they are heavy, you can hear them, not too bad, but they are fine for me and no problem on long drives. Just fine in an '80 Land Cruiser.

Re: Need tire recommendations

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:49 am
by DennisDawg
cruiserlarry wrote:The new BFG M/T KM2 has an excellent tread design as well, although we haven't heard much feedback about their off-road prowess or on-road noise level...
I have these, having replaced Goodyear MTRs (the old style - because the new style is odd to me). I have run the BFG ATs in the past as well. The ATs were way better on sand and mostly quiet on the road, sturdy for what they are. The MTRs were better on everything else off road, loved rocks, though on snow they were much like they were on sand, they dig in. The MTRs did not balance well, or keep their balance, and this was annoying at times. Also I made more than one go flat (almost famous for it in some circles) and all of them chunked a bit . . . but of course MTRs are not what is being asked about . . .

The KM2s are about the same as new MTRs as far as on road noise goes, not so bad, a dull rumble, and handling is nearly the same. They tend to tramline a bit on the highway but other than that, they are about the same as MTRs were. Off road they do as well as the MTRs if not better, very nice when aired down with great traction and thus far have not chunked, a big plus. They also seem to not dig into the snow so much, so in my one time in a little bit of snow with the KM2s, I didn’t get stuck, which made me happy.

Good tire and if you shop around a bit, you can get a good price.

Re: Need tire recommendations

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:11 pm
by Chazz Layne
I'd say ProComp as well... I love the Xtremes even more after the drive up I40 today.

Re: Need tire recommendations

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:44 pm
by ssc
Eric,
I am sold on the KM2's. I still have BFG AT's on two of my rigs and had a set on the FJ. I got them just as they were released and did a writeup in the blue forum back in 07. The sidewall is stronger than the AT-uses the krawler sidewall. Excells in rock, snow and mud over the AT. Digs a bit in sand. They did start off quiet and have gotten a bit louder as they wear. Running them on the street is fine and they do OK in the rain. Be sure you get them properly balanced, I think it is road force balanced or something like that. I always have the weights placed on the inside. So far very even wear and no cupping. If you spin them hard in the rock you can get chunks to rip, but same as any tire. When wheeling I run them at 16PSI, never a problem and great grip. In Havasu, it is not uncommon for me to just leave them at 16.

Good luck, Steve

Re: Need tire recommendations

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:00 pm
by sdnative
Thanks for all the help guys. I am leaning towards the KM2 right now. Now I just need to decide what size 255 or 285? I already have two of the 255 spares, so it makes that pill a little easier to swallow.

I noticed most of these tires now are load rating E. I have always used D in the past. Is there any downside to the E? Do they work as well aired down?

Re: Need tire recommendations

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:43 pm
by cruiserlarry
sdnative wrote:I noticed most of these tires now are load rating E. I have always used D in the past. Is there any downside to the E? Do they work as well aired down?

Actually, I think the load range E will be advantageous for you. The FZJ80 is a very heavy truck, and with coil springs and solid axles, it tend to sway more then other vehicles on the road. The stronger load range E tire will be more stable on the road, and stronger when aired down on the trail...