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Re: Nebraska

Post by Chazz Layne » Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:12 pm

cruiserlarry wrote:This is the paranoid fear-mongering that concerns me - some mad conspiracy theory that "they" want to rid everyone of all their rights... What majority of our current Supreme Court do you suggest would vote to modify 4 amendments ? Who, besides me, even voices an opposing opinion here ?
Perhaps, though I have seen and read enough from both sides, both official and not, to make me believe that when the time comes the Supreme Court will be irrelavent (see pending treaty [treaties are above Constitutional law] that plans to tax us carbon fees paid to 3rd world countries for damages "we the people" have aparently caused them). If anything, I am probably not paranoid enough... :D
While I am sure there are extremist anti-gun nuts, the majority of those for gun regulation are not looking to strip everyone of their rights...quite the contrary, most of this same group was trying to waken the general public to the actual erosion of their civil rights as a result of the Patriot Act. This pathetic piece of legislation was brought about by an administration that was extremely pro-gun; They were happy to have the focus kept on a less significant section of the constitution while more general freedoms were curtailed. Check out the actual text of the Patriot Act if you are interested to see how your rights will be taken away a small chunk at a time; not by anything having to do with the pro or anti gun debate, but rather by people in power over those who are put in fear for their safety. I didn't see any armed militia take a stand in Washington to protect the citizens when that bill was enacted. When any part of our government comes to strip you of your rights, no weapons will be required - only an air of fear that causes most to give up freedoms (even while keeping their weapons) willingly in the pursuit of "protection". To me, this is scary, and should be of concern to everyone, regardless of political leaning or social status. Since 9/11, we have allowed the government the ability to tap our phones, read our mail, and search our property, and confine us for questioning without warrant or due cause, in the name of homeland security. I can understand the furor some feel to hang onto their weapons came about after hearing that news. I just wish that same energy could be directed to the restoration of rights we did lose, instead of the ones we might lose....
Absolutely agreed.

It is really quite amazing just how well the folks at the top of the food chain have everyone confused into fighting amongst themselves over issues they feel so passionately about (guns, aids, global warming) so no one can see what is really going on, especially when you realize how often they(we) are really after the same goals. The ACLU is a classic example of this, if it weren't so tragic it would be hilarious how often they contradict themselves between their own law suits. Of course, this starts to dive off the topic again and goes into an area so big entire websites have not adequately covered it...
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Re: Nebraska

Post by BruisedFJ » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:41 am

DaveK wrote:
cruiserlarry wrote:
gon2srf wrote:or continue it at the campfire Friday night!
Sorry, I can't...

I'll be out target shooting :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You mean, WE will be out target shooting.
Now I KNOW you guys have a problem! Friday night is the Miss Borrego Contest! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Git yer priorities straight.
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Re: Nebraska

Post by DaveK » Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:31 pm

cruiserlarry wrote:Given the extreme difficulty in amending the Constitution, how is the chance of overturning or modifying the 2,4,5,10 amendments even a realistic concern ?
The means by which the gun control crowd hopes to change the Constitution is by a process known as gradualism. For many years now they have been chipping away (in small chunks) at the rights of law abiding citizens to own and use firearms by passing a never ending stream of gun laws. This process takes place under the pretense of public safety but the end result is always the same. Crime continues virtually unabated and it gets harder and harder to keep and bear arms. This gradual erosion of the right to keep and bear arms is exactly what Chazz was talking about in post #74. This process may not repeal the second amendment, but ultimately, the cumulative effect of the ever growing pile of gun laws will accomplish the same thing.


cruiserlarry wrote: I suggest we surrender the court to new players.... ;)
We'll see.



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Re: Nebraska

Post by OLLIE » Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:31 pm

Wow... I haven't been to this thread since I left NE. My how things have grown here. :lol: I love the debate.

BTW... for those having problems with large posts not taking or timing out, type it in a word processor like "Word" or "Works" first the copy and pate it into your post.
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Re: Nebraska

Post by BorregoWrangler » Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:02 pm

OLLIE wrote:BTW... for those having problems with large posts not taking or timing out, type it in a word processor like "Word" or "Works" first the copy and pate it into your post.
That's what I should have done with my report late lastnight. Just as I was about to hit "submit" my computer timed out. :x
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Re: Nebraska

Post by BruisedFJ » Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:26 pm

BorregoWrangler wrote:
OLLIE wrote:BTW... for those having problems with large posts not taking or timing out, type it in a word processor like "Word" or "Works" first the copy and pate it into your post.
That's what I should have done with my report late lastnight. Just as I was about to hit "submit" my computer timed out. :x
FINALLY an interesting and helpful topic in this thread! :lol:
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Re: Nebraska

Post by raYGunn » Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:08 am

bruisedFJ wrote:
BorregoWrangler wrote:
OLLIE wrote:BTW... for those having problems with large posts not taking or timing out, type it in a word processor like "Word" or "Works" first the copy and pate it into your post.
That's what I should have done with my report late lastnight. Just as I was about to hit "submit" my computer timed out. :x
FINALLY an interesting and helpful topic in this thread! :lol:
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