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Re: OAUSA HF Net 75m

Post by OLLIE » Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:49 pm

DaveK wrote:Ahhhhh yes......... Zulu time. Of course.




What's Zulu time???
Taken from: http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/info/zulu.htm

What is "Zulu" time?
"Zulu" time is that which is more commonly know as "GMT" (Greenwich Mean Time). Our natural concept of time is linked to the rotation of the earth and we define the length of the day as the 24 hours it takes (on average) the earth to spin once on its axis.

As time pieces became more accurate and communication became global, there needed to be a point from which all other world times were based. Since Great Britain was the world's foremost maritime power when the concept of latitude and longitude came to be, the starting point for designating longitude was the "prime meridian" which is zero degrees and runs through the Royal Greenwich Observatory, in Greenwich, England.

When the concept of time zones was introduced, the "starting" point for calculating the different time zones was agreed to be the Royal Greenwich Observatory.

Unfortunately the Earth does not rotate at exactly a constant rate. Due to various scientific reasons and increased accuracy in measuring the earth's rotation, a new timescale, called Coordinated Universal Time (UTC), has been adopted and replaces the term GMT.

The Navy, as well as civil aviation, uses the letter "Z" (phonetically "Zulu") to refer to the time at the prime meridian.

NOAA satellites use Zulu Time or Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) as their time reference. The satellite images that appear on NOAA's Web sites are stamped in Zulu time.

The Department of the Navy serves as the United States official timekeeper, with the Master Clock facility at the U.S. Naval Observatory, Washington, D.C.
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Re: OAUSA HF Net 75m

Post by xtatik » Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:47 pm

OLLIE wrote:
DaveK wrote:Ahhhhh yes......... Zulu time. Of course.




What's Zulu time???
Taken from: http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/info/zulu.htm

What is "Zulu" time?
"Zulu" time is that which is more commonly know as "GMT" (Greenwich Mean Time). Our natural concept of time is linked to the rotation of the earth and we define the length of the day as the 24 hours it takes (on average) the earth to spin once on its axis.

As time pieces became more accurate and communication became global, there needed to be a point from which all other world times were based. Since Great Britain was the world's foremost maritime power when the concept of latitude and longitude came to be, the starting point for designating longitude was the "prime meridian" which is zero degrees and runs through the Royal Greenwich Observatory, in Greenwich, England.

When the concept of time zones was introduced, the "starting" point for calculating the different time zones was agreed to be the Royal Greenwich Observatory.

Unfortunately the Earth does not rotate at exactly a constant rate. Due to various scientific reasons and increased accuracy in measuring the earth's rotation, a new timescale, called Coordinated Universal Time (UTC), has been adopted and replaces the term GMT.

The Navy, as well as civil aviation, uses the letter "Z" (phonetically "Zulu") to refer to the time at the prime meridian.

NOAA satellites use Zulu Time or Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) as their time reference. The satellite images that appear on NOAA's Web sites are stamped in Zulu time.

The Department of the Navy serves as the United States official timekeeper, with the Master Clock facility at the U.S. Naval Observatory, Washington, D.C.
Yep, all the above. And, thanks Ollie! We can adjust the time if if need be. just let me know
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Re: OAUSA HF Net 75m

Post by xtatik » Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:11 am

DaveK, Fetus,
Are you guys still good to go for tonight? Remember 6:30 pacific @ 7190 (40m).
Let me know. If so, I may cross-post to a couple other sites sometime today if I have time. I'll check in here this afternoon.
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Re: OAUSA HF Net 75m

Post by BigDave » Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:47 am

I'll try to be on. I'll be mobile.
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Re: OAUSA HF Net 75m

Post by DaveK » Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:04 pm

xtatik wrote:DaveK, Fetus,
Are you guys still good to go for tonight? Remember 6:30 pacific @ 7190 (40m).
Let me know. If so, I may cross-post to a couple other sites sometime today if I have time. I'll check in here this afternoon.
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I'll be there.
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Re: OAUSA HF Net 75m

Post by xtatik » Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:47 pm

OK DaveK and BigDave we'll have to see if Fetus we'll join in. In any case we'll kick it off tonight. I have a friend Paul, KG6OAZ who is in Death Valley (Butte Valley, Geologist Cabin) this weekend. But, he was having some issues with his rig (radio)and wasn't sure if he'd be able to check in. So, we'll just put some calls out and see what connects. Talk to you later!
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Re: OAUSA HF Net 75m

Post by xtatik » Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:02 pm

Some things to ponder:
Be prepared to hunt for the net due to QRM. Being HF it'll take a while to find a parking spot.
A name for the net?
We'll be looking for ideas as to what info to take from those in the sticks.
Try to get your home coordinates. A TOPO .tpo file will be sent to all who volunteer for net control. This will help in facilitating relays.
We'll need volunteers to gather emergency contact info for different regions in the west. This info will be shared with all who participate in the net.

edit: qsy'ed to 7195,
edit: zip, zilch, nada.... hi,hi. Pushed between 150 and 300w and hit the EU stations, going QRT, maybe next week!
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Re: OAUSA HF Net 75m

Post by DaveK » Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:26 pm

xtatik wrote:Some things to ponder:
Be prepared to hunt for the net due to QRM. Being HF it'll take a while to find a parking spot.
A name for the net?
We'll be looking for ideas as to what info to take from those in the sticks.
Try to get your home coordinates. A TOPO .tpo file will be sent to all who volunteer for net control. This will help in fcailitating relays.
We'll need volunteers to gather emergency contact info for different regions in the west. This info will be shared with all who participate in the net.

edit: qsy'ed to 7195,
edit: zip, zilch, nada.... hi,hi. Pushed between 150 and 300w and hit the EU stations, going QRT, maybe next week!

Randy:

I heard you but very weak signal. I responded, but just not enough juice, I guess. The band was very noisy on my end and even with the pre-amp and filters working, I could hardly pick you out of the noise. I don't think Hector heard you. Hector?

I moved up and down with similar results. Only had 100w.

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Re: OAUSA HF Net 75m

Post by xtatik » Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:57 pm

DaveK wrote:
xtatik wrote:Some things to ponder:
Be prepared to hunt for the net due to QRM. Being HF it'll take a while to find a parking spot.
A name for the net?
We'll be looking for ideas as to what info to take from those in the sticks.
Try to get your home coordinates. A TOPO .tpo file will be sent to all who volunteer for net control. This will help in fcailitating relays.
We'll need volunteers to gather emergency contact info for different regions in the west. This info will be shared with all who participate in the net.

edit: qsy'ed to 7195,
edit: zip, zilch, nada.... hi,hi. Pushed between 150 and 300w and hit the EU stations, going QRT, maybe next week!

Randy:

I heard you but very weak signal. I responded, but just not enough juice, I guess. The band was very noisy on my end and even with the pre-amp and filters working, I could hardly pick you out of the noise. I don't think Hector heard you. Hector?

I moved up and down with similar results. Only had 100w.

If at first you don't succeed.....................................................
Yea, I had some pretty serious S7 noise going on here as well. But, I could hear a 4-land station well enough at about S5. They were on 7190, so I posted up here and moved to 7195. I think the band may have been working a bit long. If we try next week I may bring my wire down to 1/8 wave for a more vertical signal. W'ell see!
No doubt, as Fetus correctly pointed out 80m would have better propogation for short range QSO's. But, few people in our targeted group will have 80m (larger Q screwdrivers) antennas mounted on their vehicles and I think 80 would limit involvement. The ATAS and stick antennas can still reasonably communicate on 40m if properly mounted and tuned. In the summer months, even 20m would be working great at that time of day.
As I've stated in earlier posts this'll be a project and I'm open to all input, but I think a worthwhile project in the long run. I just popped on the band again for a few minutes and it has quieted considerably. We may need to play with time, band and freq's before getting it ironed out. Thanks for tryin'!!
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Re: OAUSA HF Net 75m

Post by Fetus » Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:14 pm

40m was bad for me. Too much QRM. In fact, I haven't had any luck with 40m lately. And I usually have a QSO with my father on the weekends on 40m in the a.m. During those QSO's, I can't hear any Southern California stations.

75 usually works best for me in the evening hours.

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