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What to do when your car reaches 100,000 miles.

Post by BorregoWrangler » Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:32 am

100,000 Miles Means Something Different Now

http://autos.yahoo.com/articles/autos_c ... 000-miles/
It was once a huge red flag: When a car's odometer would hit 100,000 miles, "it was almost a magic threshold that meant the car was probably worn out," says Kay Wynter, who runs an auto service center in Fort Myers, Fla., with her husband, Terry.

But thanks to improvements in car design and maintenance, the milestone of 100,000 miles now means something very different.

Although some cars are ready for trade-in at that threshold, many others can travel twice as far without major repairs.

What allows one car to pass the 100,000-mile barrier with few repair bills, while another is ready for the junkyard? It's all about preventive medicine.

"It's just like when you get to be 70 and everyone tells you the same thing: Exercise, eat right, take care of yourself," says Lauren Fix, author of "Lauren Fix's Guide to Loving Your Car" (St. Martin's Griffin, 2008).

Feeding your car the right things and taking it for regular checkups will make all the difference.

Open the Book
The key to keeping your car running smoothly is probably tucked at the bottom of your glove compartment, under the spare napkins and ketchup packets. It's the owner's manual, which most people ignore at their peril.

"There is a schedule in the manual that runs well over 100,000 miles," says Fix, and it lists when to replace parts likely to be wearing out. The list will vary for different cars, so check yours and follow it.

Newer cars may have the maintenance schedule built into an internal computer. A blinking light or a beep will announce that it's time to replace certain parts, says autoeducation.com founder Kevin Schappell.

"Things like the water pump and timing belt should be changed before you notice a problem," Schappell says. Replacing them won't be hugely expensive, but "if that belt breaks, it can cause internal damage to the engine, or if the water pump fails, you can overheat the engine and warp the cylinder head."

That's when things get expensive.

"Typically, around 100,000 or 120,000 miles there are some major preventative maintenance things that need to be done," Schappell says, so it's a great time to catch up if you've been lax until now.

Get Fluent about Fluids
The liquids that go into your car (gas, oil, brake fluid, power steering fluid, etc.) are crucial to its survival. To extend the life of your car beyond 100,000 miles, these experts suggest frequent oil changes and fluid checks done at dealerships or full-service auto centers.

The staff at a quick-change lube shop, Fix says, isn't likely to have extensive training. Often, "they don't have experience," she says, "so they'll top off long-life fluid with non-long-life or they'll put power-steering fluid where the brake fluid ought to be."

These mistakes cause damage, but the car owner doesn't realize it until well after the discount oil-change was done.

In choosing oil, Fix advises buying full synthetics. They "actually will lube the engine better. It's designed for longer life. There are less emissions, so it's greener. There's slightly better fuel economy and better performance," she says. "There are no negatives except it costs a little more."

Whichever oil you choose, Schappell says, be consistent over time. That way you won't mix synthetics and blends, which can cause problems.

Gas also matters: Different cars benefit from different types, so check your manual. "For a Honda which runs really hot because of the compression, if it says run premium, then run premium," Fix says. "But if it says there's no benefit from premium gas," you don't need it.

Find the Right Shop
"Do your research," says Terry Wynter, and choose the best people to extend the life of your car. Ask friends and neighbors, and search online for reviews of repair shops.

Once you've chosen one, get to know the staff and ask questions. "Consumers are smarter now than ever before" about their cars, Wynter says, but many still are uncomfortable asking for details about work that needs to be done.

Sticking with your car's dealer can be a safe choice, because the staff will be trained to work on your car. But over the life of a high-mileage car, regular maintenance at a dealership can get pricey.

"Rates at an independent shop may be about $40 to $50 an hour," Schappell says, "but you're paying probably $60 to $90 an hour at a dealer."

The cost of repairs can vary widely depending on the brand of car. Parts for some vehicles, including exotic cars and some German models, can be hard to get, driving up their cost. That can be a reason to trade in a car just before the 100,000-mile threshold.

At 100,000 miles, Fix says, "it is out of warranty and you've got to consider that."

When you do replace parts, there are ways to save money: "A quick oil-change place will charge you $50 for an $18 air filter," she says, because you're mainly paying for labor.

But an auto-parts store will charge you only the $18 price tag, she says, and "you can buy it and say, I don't know how to put this on. They'll do it as a courtesy."

The Type of Miles Matter
It may seem surprising, but highway driving puts less stress on a car that tooling around locally. It requires less quick braking and acceleration, and moisture under the hood has a chance to evaporate.

"Cars that do a lot of short trips will require exhaust work a lot sooner than car that travels on the highway a lot," Schappell says.

Fix agrees: With local driving, "if you sit in rush hour traffic, tow a trailer, idle outside a school, drive on dusty roads, that's considered severe duty."

Local driving in colder climates can also cause buildup of ice and snow under the car, which may contain corrosive chemicals. Fix suggests hosing it off on slightly warmer days. She also suggests waxing your car regularly.

Sound like a lot of work to keep a car zooming along past 100,000 miles?

"It's your second most expensive investment. You want to take care of it," says Fix.

"With your home, something needs fixing and you get on it," she says. "With your car, especially one with a lot of miles you have to get on it right away too."

These small investments will add years to the life of your car.
-John Graham
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Re: What to do when your car reaches 100,000 miles.

Post by Willie H » Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:50 pm

Cool John. Who here is over 100,000 miles? I'm sure it comes much faster for a lot of us since our vehicles are also our toys, and our playgrounds the massice stretches of severe duty land. Which I'll trade the "severe duty" of Fish Creek for the "severe duty" of 5 south afternoon traffic anyday...
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Re: What to do when your car reaches 100,000 miles.

Post by cruiserlarry » Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:19 pm

Willie H wrote:Cool John. Who here is over 100,000 miles? I'm sure it comes much faster for a lot of us since our vehicles are also our toys, and our playgrounds the massice stretches of severe duty land. Which I'll trade the "severe duty" of Fish Creek for the "severe duty" of 5 south afternoon traffic anyday...
Times have changed - I have 91k on my 07 FJ, and have yet to perform any repair. Just minor maintenance, despite constant use and plenty of off-road abuse. I like to think of 100k threshold as more of a reminder that you should check out what needs to be done, as opposed to the kiss of death that it would be indicative of for cars from the 60''s , 70's, and 80's...
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Re: What to do when your car reaches 100,000 miles.

Post by WA4DQS » Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:46 pm

Got 82k on my '99 Taco. It's not a daily driver, but once was about 6 years ago. Had to replace idler in the fuel inj. system around 65k, and an O2 sensor.

Prior to that I had an '84 2wd Toyota longbed 22R 4cyl. I put 245,000 miles on it. One clutch change, a water pump and a warped exhaust manifold around 160k miles.
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Re: What to do when your car reaches 100,000 miles.

Post by NotAMog » Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:27 pm

I concur that 100,000 isn't what is used to be. Virtually any car should go 100K with only basic maintenance. Remember to change things like timing belts and spark plugs at the required intervals. I always change my oil and filter every 3,000 miles with conventional oil due to the dust in this area. I used to change air filters every other oil change until I got my first car that used at $30+ air filter. Now I generally go every 10,000 miles since these filters tend to be larger anyway.

'84 Mazda 626, 235,000 miles, had two more owners after I sold it and was still sighted running around 2 1/2 years later, original clutch, 2 water pumps, multiple timing belts (got to where I could change it in an hour), interior plastic was going, engine tired
'88 Ford Taurus, 117,000 miles, few lived that long, it was a 100K mile car, drove it to the junk yard as I couldn't bear to inflict it on anyone else
'92 Saab 900, 98,000, still have it, still runs like new, still looks like new
'02 PT Cruiser, just turned 150,000 miles today, had to do some major work last year because of neglected maintenance (long story), runs great, still looks great
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Re: What to do when your car reaches 100,000 miles.

Post by BorregoWrangler » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:40 am

137,000 miles, so a little ways past the kiss of death.
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Re: What to do when your car reaches 100,000 miles.

Post by DaveK » Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:32 am

Post 100k maintenance is important, but not just to keep the vehicle running for a long time. Preventive maintenance, knowing your vehicle's weak points and keeping an eye out for the early signs of parts failures, will also help to avoid one of the more unpleasant side effects of off-road travel - the dreaded tow truck ride to the nearest town. I spent the longest two days of my life in Baker California while Clem's repair shop searched for a bolt to fix my rig. If you are ever in Baker, check out their cockroach museum.
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Re: What to do when your car reaches 100,000 miles.

Post by OU812 » Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:44 pm

My YJ has 245K. Im looking forward to that quarter million mark. My father used to say, "Cars don't get old, people just get tired of fixing them".
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Re: What to do when your car reaches 100,000 miles.

Post by Chazz Layne » Sat Sep 18, 2010 2:51 pm

Fast approaching 100k myself, I put about 6k on in the last month.

The bits of the article I read seemed focused on the mess 80s & 90s vehicles could be at high mileage. I think it is more that the "new" technology has finally had (most of) the bugs worked out and new vehicles are finally reliable again. I would still trust a 70s Ford with 300k on it long before I'd trust a "new" vehicle with 100k.
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