Thrillcraft

[SinCityBrian]

Here is a e-mail I got from Stacie today & something I encourage all to check out. Stop Thrillcraft - it's deceptive & looks like the usual BS of emotional based plus a lot of lying with statistics.

Hey at least for once they are being honest in that there goal is complete ban on Thrillcraft aka OHV use on all public lands.

"I’m sure you’ve already heard about “Thrillcraft”. If not, here’s the info (and prepare to get mad): www.staciealbright.blogspot.com

Stacie Albright
Life Member BlueRibbon Coalition
Friends of the Rubicon (FOTR)
Friends of Eldorado (FOE)
Motherlode Rockcrawlers
CA4WDC
www.staciealbright.blogspot.com "

MONDAY, DECEMBER 29, 2008
Thrillcraft
I'm sure that most of us have already heard about the dastardly 'thrillcrafts' that are out there destroying our public lands. The book "Thrillcraft" goes above and beyond pushing the environmental agenda and bashes any sort of off road vehicle use. Be prepared to get mad. Go here for more:
http://www.stopthrillcraft.org/index.htm

[big dave]

We should start a site against their site. On it, we should post pictures of events such as Calico Cleanup, random trail maintainance runs, pictures of gon2surf's trash bag, etc etc etc.

You've gotta love how that site uses pictures of heavily protected lands that offroaders will never have access to. Lots of their photos in the video are of people playing in the sand dunes and stuff. Everyone knows the first steady wind that comes along will wipe out any trace of any sort of vehicle. Oh, im entertained at the pics they chose to use that gives the image that we are all pigs.

Im going to post links to each and every one of their pages, and tell you guys why i think they are full of crap.

http://www.stopthrillcraft.org/definition.htm
Wow, an aerial of an OHV park. Big deal, this is where most recreationists keep their hobby. Its a place setup by our states to give people a place to use their OHV areas. OHV areas are typically small in area, and also charge a fee that goes towards maintaining the land.

http://www.stopthrillcraft.org/kind.htm
Once again, a picture that makes recreationists look like pigs. I wouldnt doubt this Jeep guy was out on a low impact trail run, admiring nature. Gotta love how these "stopthrillcraft" pigs snatch up the photo, and use it on their site. Its not their photo, because they wouldnt own a Jeep and be offroading it now, would they? Either they are photo thieves, or hypocrites.

http://www.stopthrillcraft.org/public.htm
Yes, a beautiful public land thats respected by all recreationists. Maybe once in a while you will get some moron traipsing around off trail, but its rare. These areas are patrolled regularly and the people who use them wont hesitate to report anyone doing any damage. I dont see the point of showing pics of land that even the below average offroader will bother to abuse.

http://www.stopthrillcraft.org/threat.htm
Ahhh, here they talk about pollution. Youve gotta love how these people use a picture thats no doubt a snowmobile rider in snowy conditions. Check out the Arctic Cat jacket, and the guy in the background.

http://www.stopthrillcraft.org/culture.htm
Yes, because all of us are pigs cruising around looking for tits and drinking beer...spitding. The majority, if not ALL offroading clubs such as OAUSA, are against behavior like this. Ive honesty gotta say, ive never seen it, but i know those kinds of people are out there. Even if you give those pigs a bulldozer, they cant possibly do as much damage as these "stopthrillcraft" people claim OHV recreationists create.

http://www.stopthrillcraft.org/elitist.htm
Lets face the facts. The "elitists" the "stopthrillcraft" people are talking about, are mainly found at sand dune parks such as Glamis, etc. Like i said before, the first steady wind that comes along wipes out all trace of any vehicle being there. The article on this page just sounds like a mouthful of whining about people who have more money than the author, and chose to spend it in a different way that the author would.

http://www.stopthrillcraft.org/myths.htm
Here is a little page where they doctor an FAQ to benefit their cause.

http://www.stopthrillcraft.org/health.htm
Do these "thrillcraft" people drive a car on public roads? I dont see the point of arguing the amount of people injured or killed in an offroad related incident. These are people recreating on their own free will, which living in this country and freedom gives us the right to do so. How many people fall while hiking? How many people are shot while hunting? Every sport has consequences. Id like to find out which sport these "thrillcraft" people enjoy. Then ill dig up some facts and percentages explaining to them why i believe their sport should be banned. Its a 2 way street. People doing what they want to do on their free will.

http://www.stopthrillcraft.org/vision.htm
Here is your usual flower power puke cough gag page. Lets all hold hands and sing kumbya my lord, or whatever. These "thrillcraft" people need to go on a OAUSA run.

Ive run out of steam so ill stop here. I dont agree with these people one bit. They want it their way, or no way at all. "It’s time to put a halt to this menace!" sums up what they think of people who use motorized vehicles to access public lands.

[SinCityBrian]

Great reply BigDave

Here is mine to a inquiry on another forum:

I would say the majority in our sport (I prefer lifestyle) are conservationist & responsible users of our public lands.

Clubs/groups tend to be self policing, educating & stewards for our public lands.

We have a major image problem that the preservationist/anti access groups exploit & strengthen for their own goals.

Would like designation of most public & a lot of private land into wilderness.

They are very well funded, run & network well with each other.

Unless pro access groups/interests can get over the petty differences & unite in a war against groups like Thrillcraft-CBD ect. it will only be a few years when most our trails are closed & the lifestyle we enjoy will be regulated to private OHV parks. I also expect them to go after the private parks after they get public lands closed to OHV use.

I know not a pretty picture of our sports future but a likely outcome.

Cheers

Brian

[big dave]

Great reply BigDave
I know not a pretty picture of our sports future but a likely outcome.

I look foward to walking 200 miles to my favorite spot of wilderness.

[SinCityBrian]

Great reply BigDave
I know not a pretty picture of our sports future but a likely outcome.

I look foward to walking 200 miles to my favorite spot of wilderness.

Yeah I tried to use the Americans with Disabilities Act in opposition of the Sloan Canyon NRA (Wilderness) before it was ram rodded through years ago.

I was told by BLMs consultant "if I couldn't walk in on my own 2 feet tough luck, no mountainbikes, or any kind of mechanical transportation, I could hanglide over it but couldn't land."

[BorregoWrangler]

Oh yeah, I've seen that load of BS before. I love how they say all things that I love about this lifestyle are just "myths"!

Great post there, big dave!