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Another new (to me) aquarium!

Post by BorregoWrangler » Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:28 pm

My brother-in-law has some friends who have been cleaning out the house of their father, who had unfortunately passed away. He had a 30 and 80 gallon tank with all the filters, stands, lighting and whatnot. I got the 80 gallon (48x18x24) with a Fluval 404 and Marineland Emperor 400 filter. It also came with a few fish which we split up. I got two Pictus Catfish, two adult Giant Danios and a Marbled Goby (didn't know what he was at the time but more on that later).

I know it'll be a planted tank like my 30 and 60 and I had finally settled on what stock I want. So I got the tank filled just to make sure all the filters work and check the level. I need to order a new impeller cover for the Fluval to quite it down. Also need to level the tank out a bit as you can see.

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I found 3/4" board to put under one end and it leveled out perfectly! I'll get a few more cut to size so that the whole bottom will be supported. Its always important to make sure that any large aquarium (55 gallons and up) is setting on a level surface or else the uneven pressure in the tank may cause the glass to crack and leak. After that, I'll be getting sand, rocks, driftwood, plants and more filter media. Can't wait to get it going!

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Still got a ways to go...
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I had considered getting just a single Jaguar Cichlid or maybe a pair of Oscars but wanted more fish than that. So here's my stock list.

2x Needlenose Gar (Xenentodon cancila)
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2x Slantnose Gar (Ctenolucius hujeta)
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2x Pictus Catfish (Pimelodus pictus)
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1x Dinosaur Bichir (Polypterus senegalus)
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2x Peacock Eels (Macrognathus siamensis)
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Besides the two Pictus Cats I got with it the little guy that I didn't know what it was turned out to be a Marbled Goby. He went into my community 30 gallon and after a bit I started to notice that I was missing a few fish and that the new guy was looking fat and happy. So after some research I found out that they are a large, solitary, slow-moving fish which rests undisturbed on the bottom of quiet streams, canals and lakes in many parts of Southeast Asia. It rarely moves, even when disturbed. It preys on other fish, which are oblivious to its presence. Since they get over 20" in length I'm gonna need a bigger tank down the line or trade him in. It really sucks when people get fish without taking the time to do their research first and get the kind of fish that they can properly house and care for!

Anyway, I plan on giving them a really nice place to hide in the 80. Gonna use a 4" section of black corrugated drainage pipe to make a nice tunnel/cave for them. It'll be u-shaped and buried behind a rock shelf to one side. Here's a picture of the little fish-killer. So cute!

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Once everything is setup and running in the tank it'll need to be cycled before I add any fish to it. Every new tank, with new filtration, has to be cycled to be safe for aquatic life. What is meant by "cycled"?
"Cycled" is a reference to the Nitrogen cycle. This is the bio filtration that happens in our filters, where a large colony of beneficial bacteria will grow and help process the wastes produced by the tank's inhabitants.

Since the existence of fish wastes have always been considered the starting point of a cycle, traditionally the cycling process would involve initially adding a few tougher fish (such as Zebra Danios) and allowing their waste to cycle the tank. This method is indeed effective, however, it is very stressful for even the strongest fish. Ammonia is highly toxic, and its effect on the fish's gills could be compared to shampoo in your eyes...it "burns"! Worse yet, it will also cause permanent damage to the very tissues that allow the fish to breath. This damage is so serious that a significant fraction of fish used to cycle a tank die during the cycling period itself, and even those who do manage to survive the cycle have their life expectancy greatly shortened, often dying within the next few months instead of living a happy life of 3-10 years that almost all fish are capable of.

In short:
"Ammonia" (toxic fish waste) is converted by bacteria into-
"Nitrite" (toxic as well) then converted by a second type of bacteria into-
"Nitrate"(basicaly harmless in low concentrations) that gasses off in the Aquarium.

This information is not for the advanced water chemist, its is directed to those fishkeepers that do not know what the nitrogen cycle is, and have had problems with keeping fish alive and well in their new tanks and with new filtration...

OK to start off there are a few things that you are going to have to have PERIOD...
1)Water test kit (Ammonia,Nitrite,Nitrate)
2)Patience
3)Commitment to cycle the tank completely
4)Pure household Ammonia (clear w/no soaps or fragrance)
a)Shake bottle- if there are bubbles - no good
if it looks like water - way good
5)Aquarium needing cycling with the water set to 85 degrees F.
6)Filtration, installed and working properly.

First thing, first...
Bacteria thrives in water over 80 degrees F.
Make sure to set the temp to 85 degrees F.

Once you determine how much water you have in the system, de-chlorinated the water with a de-chlorinator that does not contain anything that says "eliminates ammonia etc." I use stresscoat and I know that works.

Now, you'll add 5 DROPS of Ammonia per 10 gallons, no more no less. Pick a time of day that you'll be able to take readings, everyday, for a couple of weeks.

Do this everyday until you see a measurable amount of Nitrites.
When you have a Nitrite reading, this means you have started the nitrogen cycle and are effectively growing the Beneficial Bacteria, that converts the Ammonia into Nitrite. We are half way there.

Now you will lower the amount of Ammonia to 3 drops per 10 gallons per day. You will do this until you get a reading of 0 Ammonia and 0 Nitrites. ZERO means ZERO, no matter how long it takes to get there. You are now building the Bacteria that converts the Nitrite into Nitrate.

Ok, so now we are adding 3 drops per 10 gallons of water daily.
We are getting a reading of Zero Ammonia / Zero Nitrite and we have a Nitrate reading of 20-40 ppm. You are almost there.

You need to do a 50% waterchange with de-chlorinated water and adjust your temperature. Now is the time to get your fish. Acclimate them and get them in your properly cycled tank...enjoy them as they will be enjoying your correct water parameters. With a 25% water change every two weeks or so, your fish should live long and happy lives.
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Re: Another new (to me) aquarium!

Post by BorregoWrangler » Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:41 pm

Here are a few pictures of some of the fish in my other tanks.

Firemouth and Kribensis Cichlid.
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Pictus Catfish
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Growing out the Water Wisteria to plant in the 80 gallon.
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Re: Another new (to me) aquarium!

Post by BlueFJ » Thu Apr 01, 2010 5:31 pm

You lucky bas...! :mrgreen: That's one sweeeet set-up!
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Re: Another new (to me) aquarium!

Post by cruiserlarry » Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:45 pm

Great information, John - your are to be commended on your patience and resolve to take on tropical fish...

I have rooms full of tanks (from 10 to 200 gallons) when I was a teenager, back when the equipment to properly maintain tanks was just evolving (right around the time of the last dinosaurs, I think :lol: ), and it was a monumental commitment of time, energy, and money to keep things going well. So much, in fact, that when I moved from that house, I gave away all the tanks, equipment and fish, and vowed never again. I have not, however, lost my appreciation for the beauty of the fish, or the work others put in to keep it that way.

I will enjoy your pics, knowing that someone else is dedicated to maintaining that tank... :mrgreen:
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Re: Another new (to me) aquarium!

Post by salad_man » Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:24 pm

Thats awesome! I have an 80 gallon tank I wish to start soon, maybe you could help me. Im just not sure what brand or exactly what filters or set up I would like yet... Thanks
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Re: Another new (to me) aquarium!

Post by BorregoWrangler » Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:02 pm

Thank you very much, Larry. I bet fishkeeping was alot different back then compared to all the stuff we can get for it now. If you ever do decide to get into it again I'm sure it'll be alot easier. Man, I wish I was able to have a 200 gallon tank when I was living at home!
salad_man wrote:Thats awesome! I have an 80 gallon tank I wish to start soon, maybe you could help me. Im just not sure what brand or exactly what filters or set up I would like yet... Thanks
I'd be happy to help out with any questions you might have. Quite a bit depends on what kind of fish you want to stock in the aquarium. I'll update this thread as I make progress seting up the tank so keep an eye on it for any ideas. :geek:
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Re: Another new (to me) aquarium!

Post by salad_man » Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:53 pm

Alright thanks, and I was thinking of having live corals and some clown fish and such, any suggestions? thanks
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Re: Another new (to me) aquarium!

Post by BorregoWrangler » Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:07 pm

salad_man wrote:Alright thanks, and I was thinking of having live corals and some clown fish and such, any suggestions? thanks
As marine tanks go, I think that would be one of the easiest ways to go. Your 80 gallon would make a nice setup for that. Just keep in mind that saltwater fish require more space than frestwater fish, and are much more sensitive to poor water quality. I've never kept marine aquariums because I didn't want to deal with the added expense and maintenance. However, if that's what you'd like to do then I say go for it! :D
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Re: Another new (to me) aquarium!

Post by BorregoWrangler » Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:21 pm

Just an update. I didn't have a very good selection of rocks for my tank at home so I took a drive out into the backcountry to see what I could find. I ended up doing pretty good and even found a few bits of driftwood that I could use.

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Coming along. I got the sand and rocks in, now just need to change the background.
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That's better.
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Still have a lot more plants to go...
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Re: Another new (to me) aquarium!

Post by salad_man » Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:30 am

Looks good
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