Re: OAUSA Net - April 4, 2024 - Outdoor Cooking (and indoors too)
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Re: OAUSA Net - April 4, 2024 - Outdoor Cooking (and indoors too)
Outdoor Cooking (and indoors too)
GOOD NEWS!~!!!!
OUR REPEATER IS BACK IN ACTION AND OUR NET WILL PROCEED TONIGHT.
This net will consistent of two sessions, with Becky, KF6RGR, taking the first session. I will be posting many of the pictures and text that Becky has prepared. And, away we go.
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By Becky KF5RGR
For tonight’s net we will be discussing outdoor cooking, using a variety of cooking vessels. I will explain how I use, clean and season my cast iron pots and lids. I didn’t use to pay much attention to the lids, but after turning one over one day, I decided that the lid also needs proper attention. The cast iron I use for the stove have nipples on the inside (duh) of the lid that will self-baste the foods as you cook. If you don’t want the steam to gather in the pot or skillet, don’t use a lid.
Cleaning Cast Iron
Chain mail to clean crusty cast iron
Cast Iron Conditioner
Propane bottle holder
GOOD NEWS!~!!!!
OUR REPEATER IS BACK IN ACTION AND OUR NET WILL PROCEED TONIGHT.
This net will consistent of two sessions, with Becky, KF6RGR, taking the first session. I will be posting many of the pictures and text that Becky has prepared. And, away we go.
________________________________________________________
By Becky KF5RGR
For tonight’s net we will be discussing outdoor cooking, using a variety of cooking vessels. I will explain how I use, clean and season my cast iron pots and lids. I didn’t use to pay much attention to the lids, but after turning one over one day, I decided that the lid also needs proper attention. The cast iron I use for the stove have nipples on the inside (duh) of the lid that will self-baste the foods as you cook. If you don’t want the steam to gather in the pot or skillet, don’t use a lid.
Cleaning Cast Iron
Chain mail to clean crusty cast iron
Cast Iron Conditioner
Propane bottle holder
DaveK
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Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.
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Cast Iron Cooking Tools
Gloves and lid lifter for Dutch oven
Holder to set lid on or to stack ovens on top of each other
Older version of Volcano
Dutch Oven cover
Dutch Oven set up with flat griddle underneath to hold briquets
Tripod to set over an open fire (this can be deleted if room is needed)
Gloves and lid lifter for Dutch oven
Holder to set lid on or to stack ovens on top of each other
Older version of Volcano
Dutch Oven cover
Dutch Oven set up with flat griddle underneath to hold briquets
Tripod to set over an open fire (this can be deleted if room is needed)
DaveK
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Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.
Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.
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New Tools and Charcoal Recommendations
New Collapsible Volcano - https://VolcanoGrills.com
Lodge Coal Chart for Dutch Ovens - https://www.lodgecastiron.com/story/how ... dutch-oven
New Collapsible Volcano - https://VolcanoGrills.com
Lodge Coal Chart for Dutch Ovens - https://www.lodgecastiron.com/story/how ... dutch-oven
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BECKY'S FAVORITE RECIPES
Tembo Tusk Recipe for Fish Tacos With a Chipotle Aioli Sauce
The Cooking Device
Tembo Tusk Skottle - https://Tembotusk.com
The Recipe
Ingredients
Butter
3 cod fillets
1 tbsp chile powder
1 tsp garlic salt
3 limes
Chopped cilantro
1 cup mayonnaise
1 tbsp honey
2 canned chipotle chiles in adobo sauce
Salt and pepper
2 large tomatoes
1 white onion
1 jalapeno
Purple cabbage
White corn tortillas
Cooking Tools
Skottle
Spatula/Tongs
Knife
Lid
Cutting board
Spoon
How To: When Using The Tembo Tusk Skottle Grill
You can find this recipe and similar ones on line by searching, "Fish Tacos with a Chipotle Aioli Sauce"
Cut fish fillets in half for a faster cook. Season with chile powder, garlic salt, and the juice of 1 lime. Set aside.
To make the chipotle aioli sauce combine chopped cilantro, mayo, honey, chipotle chiles, the juice of 1 lime, salt and pepper. Set aside and refrigerate if possible.
Next make the pico de gallo. Combine the finely diced tomatoes, onion, cilantro, and jalapeno with the juice of 1 lime, salt and pepper.
Turn the Skottle to medium/low heat. Place about 1 tbsp of butter in the center of the pan and move around until melted.
Place fillets in the center of the Skottle, drizzle a small amount of adobo sauce on top of each piece of fish, and cook.
When the fish is almost cooked, push tortillas to the edge of the Skottle to warm.
Once the fish is cooked and has a nice glaze, push to the edge of the Skottle. Brown tortillas one at a time in the center of the Skottle.
Assemble your tacos with purple cabbage, pico de gallo, chipotle aioli sauce, and guacamole. Enjoy!
Chicken and Doritos
In a large 12” deep cast iron dutch oven, melt a couple tablespoons of butter on the bottom. Roll a 3-4 pound whole chicken in the melted butter so it is buttery all over. Or if you have a smaller pot, melt the butter and pour over from the smaller pot. Crush a large bag of Nacho Cheese Doritos and sprinkle over the chicken. Cook at 350° (17 briquets on top, 8 briquets on bottom), for 1 hour 10 minutes. Take the chicken out of the dutch oven and place in a heat resistant bowl. Shred the chicken off the bones. This can be used with your choice of corn or flour tortillas for street tacos, or larger flour tortillas for burritos.
Heating up a can (or premade homemade) pinto, adzuki or black beans, along with some shredded cheese and chopped up onions makes for a great tasty meal.
When we made this for a Big Bear camping trip, we intended to feed 4 adults and 4 children. However, hubby helped a little boy who crashed his bicycle near our camp and took him to his family. A little while later, the father brought us some carne asada, which we gladly added to our meal, but also shared some of our Dorito Chicken.
Peach Cobbler
Family reunion pot luck dish I made for at least 20 adults and that many more kids of various ages. However, most of the kids ate ice cream that was not made at this campout.
12” or 14” dutch oven
Foil
1 number 10 can of halved or sliced peaches, fluid drained
1 cup Bisquick mix (You may need two batches of the Bisquick mix)
1 cup milk
½ cup butter
1 tsp cinnamon
1 tsp nutmeg
1 cup sugar
Line your Dutch oven with the foil to help with clean up and help preserve the Dutch oven patina. Layer the peach halves in the Dutch oven. If you prefer, slice or dice the peaches. Mix a batch of Bisquick and pour over the peaches. Add another batch if you think it doesn’t cover enough of the peaches. Sprinkle the sugar over the top. Bake at 350° for 1 hour and use appropriate number of briquets. Serve with vanilla ice cream.
Rice with Spam and Eggs and Mixed Veggies (Skottle Recipe)
½ cup rice per person, make at camp or make ahead
1 can of low Sodium Spam, chopped in bite sized pieces
1 cup each:
chopped carrots (thinly sliced)
Scallions
chopped Spinach, kale, chard or other greens
1 can sliced water chestnuts
1 package fresh English peas from Trader Joes
4-6 garlic cloves chopped OR 1 tsp granulate garlic
1 tsp pepper
Cook rice in Skottle according to directions on package, usually 1 cup rice to 2 cups water, veggie broth or chicken broth. Cover and let simmer until rice is al dente. It will cook more when adding all the other ingredients.
OR you can precook your rice at home, if you have enough room in your ice chest or ARB fridge. Yes, you can freeze cooked rice. In fact, it's actually preferable to storing it in the refrigerator, even if you plan to use it within a matter of days. This is because uncooked rice contains a spore-forming bacteria known as Bacillus Cereus. Once cooked, the bacteria in the rice is killed, but because the spores are so heat resistant, they will remain in the rice. When cooked rice is stored for some time, the bacteria can start to grow again, leading to food poisoning. However, storing the rice in the freezer prevents the formation of bacteria, making it the safer option even for short-term storage. All types of rice freeze well, including white, brown, and even fried rice (containing meat and veggies). Batch cooking rice and freezing it for later can be a serious meal prep game changer. This information was taken from https://www.allrecipes.com/article/can- ... oked-rice/.
If you are using uncooked rice, after the rice is cooked, add chopped up spam and veggies, saute’ing them in a little oil or butter with the rice until heated through.
This can be a main lunch or dinner dish or can be a Mulligan Stew for last day breakfast. If you make the last day breakfast dish, use whatever meat or veggies you might have to add. Whip 4-6 eggs along with some half and half and pour over the cooked meat and veggies. Set temperature to low and cover until the egg is done.
Tembo Tusk Recipe for Fish Tacos With a Chipotle Aioli Sauce
The Cooking Device
Tembo Tusk Skottle - https://Tembotusk.com
The Recipe
Ingredients
Butter
3 cod fillets
1 tbsp chile powder
1 tsp garlic salt
3 limes
Chopped cilantro
1 cup mayonnaise
1 tbsp honey
2 canned chipotle chiles in adobo sauce
Salt and pepper
2 large tomatoes
1 white onion
1 jalapeno
Purple cabbage
White corn tortillas
Cooking Tools
Skottle
Spatula/Tongs
Knife
Lid
Cutting board
Spoon
How To: When Using The Tembo Tusk Skottle Grill
You can find this recipe and similar ones on line by searching, "Fish Tacos with a Chipotle Aioli Sauce"
Cut fish fillets in half for a faster cook. Season with chile powder, garlic salt, and the juice of 1 lime. Set aside.
To make the chipotle aioli sauce combine chopped cilantro, mayo, honey, chipotle chiles, the juice of 1 lime, salt and pepper. Set aside and refrigerate if possible.
Next make the pico de gallo. Combine the finely diced tomatoes, onion, cilantro, and jalapeno with the juice of 1 lime, salt and pepper.
Turn the Skottle to medium/low heat. Place about 1 tbsp of butter in the center of the pan and move around until melted.
Place fillets in the center of the Skottle, drizzle a small amount of adobo sauce on top of each piece of fish, and cook.
When the fish is almost cooked, push tortillas to the edge of the Skottle to warm.
Once the fish is cooked and has a nice glaze, push to the edge of the Skottle. Brown tortillas one at a time in the center of the Skottle.
Assemble your tacos with purple cabbage, pico de gallo, chipotle aioli sauce, and guacamole. Enjoy!
Chicken and Doritos
In a large 12” deep cast iron dutch oven, melt a couple tablespoons of butter on the bottom. Roll a 3-4 pound whole chicken in the melted butter so it is buttery all over. Or if you have a smaller pot, melt the butter and pour over from the smaller pot. Crush a large bag of Nacho Cheese Doritos and sprinkle over the chicken. Cook at 350° (17 briquets on top, 8 briquets on bottom), for 1 hour 10 minutes. Take the chicken out of the dutch oven and place in a heat resistant bowl. Shred the chicken off the bones. This can be used with your choice of corn or flour tortillas for street tacos, or larger flour tortillas for burritos.
Heating up a can (or premade homemade) pinto, adzuki or black beans, along with some shredded cheese and chopped up onions makes for a great tasty meal.
When we made this for a Big Bear camping trip, we intended to feed 4 adults and 4 children. However, hubby helped a little boy who crashed his bicycle near our camp and took him to his family. A little while later, the father brought us some carne asada, which we gladly added to our meal, but also shared some of our Dorito Chicken.
Peach Cobbler
Family reunion pot luck dish I made for at least 20 adults and that many more kids of various ages. However, most of the kids ate ice cream that was not made at this campout.
12” or 14” dutch oven
Foil
1 number 10 can of halved or sliced peaches, fluid drained
1 cup Bisquick mix (You may need two batches of the Bisquick mix)
1 cup milk
½ cup butter
1 tsp cinnamon
1 tsp nutmeg
1 cup sugar
Line your Dutch oven with the foil to help with clean up and help preserve the Dutch oven patina. Layer the peach halves in the Dutch oven. If you prefer, slice or dice the peaches. Mix a batch of Bisquick and pour over the peaches. Add another batch if you think it doesn’t cover enough of the peaches. Sprinkle the sugar over the top. Bake at 350° for 1 hour and use appropriate number of briquets. Serve with vanilla ice cream.
Rice with Spam and Eggs and Mixed Veggies (Skottle Recipe)
½ cup rice per person, make at camp or make ahead
1 can of low Sodium Spam, chopped in bite sized pieces
1 cup each:
chopped carrots (thinly sliced)
Scallions
chopped Spinach, kale, chard or other greens
1 can sliced water chestnuts
1 package fresh English peas from Trader Joes
4-6 garlic cloves chopped OR 1 tsp granulate garlic
1 tsp pepper
Cook rice in Skottle according to directions on package, usually 1 cup rice to 2 cups water, veggie broth or chicken broth. Cover and let simmer until rice is al dente. It will cook more when adding all the other ingredients.
OR you can precook your rice at home, if you have enough room in your ice chest or ARB fridge. Yes, you can freeze cooked rice. In fact, it's actually preferable to storing it in the refrigerator, even if you plan to use it within a matter of days. This is because uncooked rice contains a spore-forming bacteria known as Bacillus Cereus. Once cooked, the bacteria in the rice is killed, but because the spores are so heat resistant, they will remain in the rice. When cooked rice is stored for some time, the bacteria can start to grow again, leading to food poisoning. However, storing the rice in the freezer prevents the formation of bacteria, making it the safer option even for short-term storage. All types of rice freeze well, including white, brown, and even fried rice (containing meat and veggies). Batch cooking rice and freezing it for later can be a serious meal prep game changer. This information was taken from https://www.allrecipes.com/article/can- ... oked-rice/.
If you are using uncooked rice, after the rice is cooked, add chopped up spam and veggies, saute’ing them in a little oil or butter with the rice until heated through.
This can be a main lunch or dinner dish or can be a Mulligan Stew for last day breakfast. If you make the last day breakfast dish, use whatever meat or veggies you might have to add. Whip 4-6 eggs along with some half and half and pour over the cooked meat and veggies. Set temperature to low and cover until the egg is done.
DaveK
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Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.
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Alternative Cooking Methods (Discada) - OAUSA Net - April 11, 2024
Cooking Methods to Consider
There are many ways to cook outdoors using methods other than the charcoal grill, gas grill, gas stove, and Dutch oven (traditional methods). Here, the OAUSA net will introduce alternative methods of outdoor cooking for your consideration...not because the alternative methods are better than the more traditional methods, but because they are techniques that may help one expand their range of outdoor cooking capabilities and enhance their outdoor cooking options and enjoyment.
Discada Method
Discada (a.k.a., Plow Disc Cooker, Disco Cooker, Plow Disc Grill, Cowboy Wok or Disk Cooker_ - Is Spanish for cooking in an agricultural disc that yields spectacular flavors. Folks have been using the Discada ever since the disc plow was around and it's been a secret of the Southwest for a long time.
Heat Source
Discadas can be heated using a gas burner or directly over coals. Because Discadas transmit heat quickly, use over coals is facilitated by raising the disc above the coals with built-in legs or a stand.
Pros and Cons
Pros
A B C D
Information and Credits
Equipment: https://www.southwestdisk.com/about-us/ - Made in the USA by Americans.
Recipes: https://kentrollins.com/discada/ - Recipes and cooking videos from an American Patriot.
There are many ways to cook outdoors using methods other than the charcoal grill, gas grill, gas stove, and Dutch oven (traditional methods). Here, the OAUSA net will introduce alternative methods of outdoor cooking for your consideration...not because the alternative methods are better than the more traditional methods, but because they are techniques that may help one expand their range of outdoor cooking capabilities and enhance their outdoor cooking options and enjoyment.
Discada Method
Discada (a.k.a., Plow Disc Cooker, Disco Cooker, Plow Disc Grill, Cowboy Wok or Disk Cooker_ - Is Spanish for cooking in an agricultural disc that yields spectacular flavors. Folks have been using the Discada ever since the disc plow was around and it's been a secret of the Southwest for a long time.
Heat Source
Discadas can be heated using a gas burner or directly over coals. Because Discadas transmit heat quickly, use over coals is facilitated by raising the disc above the coals with built-in legs or a stand.
Pros and Cons
Pros
- Communal - Great for multiple cooks and gathering around the cook(s) to watch food preparation
- Large - Great for cooking for a group or family
- Cleanup - With good meal planning, cooking can often be accomplished in one disc, minimizing the pots and plans to clean
- Large size and weight can make transport a challenge
- Safety - Discs on burners can be unstable...make sure the disc fits the burner securely and keep children away from the disc while cooking
- Evenness - Discs have pronounced hot and warm areas...plan food preparation carefully to optimize use of the distinct heat zones inherent in disc cooking
A B C D
Information and Credits
Equipment: https://www.southwestdisk.com/about-us/ - Made in the USA by Americans.
Recipes: https://kentrollins.com/discada/ - Recipes and cooking videos from an American Patriot.
Last edited by Jeff-OAUSA on Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:31 pm, edited 5 times in total.
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"If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them something more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it."- Lyndon B. Johnson, President of the United States
The middle of nowhere is somewhere I'd prefer to be.
"If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them something more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it."- Lyndon B. Johnson, President of the United States
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Alternative Cooking Methods (Can Cooker) - OAUSA Net - April 11, 2024
Cooking Methods to Consider
There are many ways to cook outdoors using methods other than the charcoal grill, gas grill, gas stove, and Dutch oven (traditional methods). Here, the OAUSA net will introduce alternative methods of outdoor cooking for your consideration...not because the alternative methods are better than the more traditional methods, but because they are techniques that may help one expand their range of outdoor cooking capabilities and enhance their outdoor cooking options and enjoyment.
Can Cooker
Can Cooker - The origin of this method goes back to a simpler time of ranch life. According to accounts, its inventor, Seth McGinn, witnessed a method used on his grandparents' ranch in East Nebraska. Before ranch work like branding cattle began, a large cream can would be filled with ingredients like meat, vegetables, and spices. This can would then be placed on a fire for slow-cooking with steam while the cowboys tended to their duties. By lunchtime, a delicious and hearty meal would be ready, cooked to perfection seemingly effortlessly.
Can Cookers are not pressure cookers. The Can Cooker utilizes steam to cook food, and include a steam vent to prevent the vessel from becoming pressurized. Never, ever plug the steam vent and make sure it is open before and during use.
Heat Source
Heat sources for Can Cookers can be stove-top, grill, open fire, and coals. It is important to use a low to medium heat source, similar to cooking with a Dutch oven. If using open fire or coals, indirect heat is suggested and can be achieved using a grate or rocks to keep the Can Cooker above and out of direct contact with the flames or hot coals. A coating of soap on the outside of the Can Cooker can make cleanup easier when cooking over open fire flames or coals.
Pros and Cons
Pros
A B C D
Information and Credits
Equipment: https://www.cancooker.com/product/cancooker-original/
Recipes: https://www.cancooker.com/recipes/
There are many ways to cook outdoors using methods other than the charcoal grill, gas grill, gas stove, and Dutch oven (traditional methods). Here, the OAUSA net will introduce alternative methods of outdoor cooking for your consideration...not because the alternative methods are better than the more traditional methods, but because they are techniques that may help one expand their range of outdoor cooking capabilities and enhance their outdoor cooking options and enjoyment.
Can Cooker
Can Cooker - The origin of this method goes back to a simpler time of ranch life. According to accounts, its inventor, Seth McGinn, witnessed a method used on his grandparents' ranch in East Nebraska. Before ranch work like branding cattle began, a large cream can would be filled with ingredients like meat, vegetables, and spices. This can would then be placed on a fire for slow-cooking with steam while the cowboys tended to their duties. By lunchtime, a delicious and hearty meal would be ready, cooked to perfection seemingly effortlessly.
Can Cookers are not pressure cookers. The Can Cooker utilizes steam to cook food, and include a steam vent to prevent the vessel from becoming pressurized. Never, ever plug the steam vent and make sure it is open before and during use.
Heat Source
Heat sources for Can Cookers can be stove-top, grill, open fire, and coals. It is important to use a low to medium heat source, similar to cooking with a Dutch oven. If using open fire or coals, indirect heat is suggested and can be achieved using a grate or rocks to keep the Can Cooker above and out of direct contact with the flames or hot coals. A coating of soap on the outside of the Can Cooker can make cleanup easier when cooking over open fire flames or coals.
Pros and Cons
Pros
- Simple and Easy to Use: The Can Cooker is known for its user-friendly design. Once you add your ingredients and water, it requires minimal monitoring.
- Versatility: The Can Cooker can be used for a variety of dishes, from steaming vegetables and seafood to slow-cooking stews and roasts.
- Moist and Flavorful Food: Steam cooking helps lock in moisture and natural flavors, resulting in tender and delicious food .
- Portable: The Can Cooker is lightweight and compact, making it ideal for outdoor cooking adventures like camping, tailgating, or picnics.
- Works on Various Heat Sources: The Can Cooker can be used over campfires, grills, camp stoves, or even on your home stovetop.
- Easy Cleanup: The smooth aluminum interior makes cleanup a breeze, often requiring just soap and water.
- Limited Browning: Since the Can Cooker relies on steaming, it doesn't achieve the same level of browning as grilling or pan-searing.
- Size Limitations: While there are various sizes available, the Can Cooker may not be suitable for very large quantities of food, depending on the size you choose.
- Cost: The Can Cooker can be more expensive than some other outdoor cooking options, and some accessories like the cooking rack are sold separately.
- Not Ideal for All Dishes: The Can Cooker might not be the best choice for recipes that require constant attention or high heat cooking methods like stir-frying.
- Soot Stains (for campfire use): Using the Can Cooker directly over coals can leave soot stains on the exterior.
A B C D
Information and Credits
Equipment: https://www.cancooker.com/product/cancooker-original/
Recipes: https://www.cancooker.com/recipes/
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The middle of nowhere is somewhere I'd prefer to be.
"If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them something more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it."- Lyndon B. Johnson, President of the United States
The middle of nowhere is somewhere I'd prefer to be.
"If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them something more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it."- Lyndon B. Johnson, President of the United States
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Alternative Cooking Methods (Suspended/Elevated Cooking Stands) - OAUSA Net - April 11, 2024
Cooking Methods to Consider
There are many ways to cook outdoors using methods other than the charcoal grill, gas grill, gas stove, and Dutch oven (traditional methods). Here, the OAUSA net will introduce alternative methods of outdoor cooking for your consideration...not because the alternative methods are better than the more traditional methods, but because they are techniques that may help one expand their range of outdoor cooking capabilities and enhance their outdoor cooking options and enjoyment.
Suspended/Elevated Cooking
The use of devices to suspend meat, vegetables, and pots over open fire trace back to prehistoric times.
Tripods/Bipods/Quadpods and Cooking Stands are typically used over open fires, either campfire directly on the ground, or in recognition of Leave No Trace principles, using them over fires in containment systems.
In many respects, Discada cooking evolved from using Tripods/Bipods/Quadpods and Cooking Stands, where the burner below the Discada serves as both the stand and the heat source. Of course, Discadas can be hung from a Tripod/Bipod/Quadpod.
Pros and Cons
Pros - Tripods/Bipods/Quadpods
A B C D E F
Photos - Elevated Cooking Stands
G H I J
Information and Credits
Equipment: There are hundreds of sources of this equipment, and it can be found via your favorite browser.
Recipes: There are hundreds of sources for recipes for cooking using a Tripod/Bipod/Quadpod or Cooking Stand over an open fire. Most traditional recipes can be adapted to this method of cooking.
There are many ways to cook outdoors using methods other than the charcoal grill, gas grill, gas stove, and Dutch oven (traditional methods). Here, the OAUSA net will introduce alternative methods of outdoor cooking for your consideration...not because the alternative methods are better than the more traditional methods, but because they are techniques that may help one expand their range of outdoor cooking capabilities and enhance their outdoor cooking options and enjoyment.
Suspended/Elevated Cooking
The use of devices to suspend meat, vegetables, and pots over open fire trace back to prehistoric times.
- Simple Supports: The earliest uses of cooking stands probably involved leveraging natural features like forked branches or large rocks to create a rudimentary hanging or support mechanism for roasting meats and cooking in pots.
- Basic Tripod Structures: Early humans likely used simple tripod structures made from sturdy sticks to suspend cooking pots over fires. These early tripods would have been temporary and likely used for communal cooking.
- Metalworking Advancements: The invention of metalworking around 4000 BC opened the door for more permanent tripod designs. Copper, bronze, and later iron would have allowed for stronger and more durable tripods.
- Spread Across Cultures: Evidence of tripod use for cooking can be found in ancient civilizations around the world. Tripod cooking has been depicted in Egyptian art, mentioned in Roman writings, and used by nomadic cultures in Asia.
- Essential Camping Tool: As exploration and travel increased during the Medieval period and beyond, tripods became a vital tool for travelers, soldiers, and explorers. They were lightweight, portable, and offered a reliable way to cook over campfires.
- Standardization and Specialization: The 20th century saw a rise in standardized camping gear, including tripods. Tripods were often part of mess kits issued to military personnel and became commercially available for civilian campers.
- Introduction of New Materials: Lighter and stronger materials like aluminum replaced heavier metals in tripod construction.
- Continued Popularity: Today, campfire cooking tripods remain a popular choice for campers who enjoy the traditional campfire experience and the versatility they offer. They're also sometimes used in outdoor kitchens and backyards for a touch of rustic charm.
Tripods/Bipods/Quadpods and Cooking Stands are typically used over open fires, either campfire directly on the ground, or in recognition of Leave No Trace principles, using them over fires in containment systems.
In many respects, Discada cooking evolved from using Tripods/Bipods/Quadpods and Cooking Stands, where the burner below the Discada serves as both the stand and the heat source. Of course, Discadas can be hung from a Tripod/Bipod/Quadpod.
Pros and Cons
Pros - Tripods/Bipods/Quadpods
- Adjustable Height: This is a big advantage of campfire Tripods/Bipods/Quadpods. By raising or lowering the pot or pan, you can easily control the cooking temperature over the fire.
- Simple and Versatile: Tripods/Bipods/Quadpods are easy to set up and use. They can hold a variety of pot sizes, Dutch ovens, grates, and grills, making them suitable for many camp cooking tasks.
- Fuel Efficient: By using firewood, Tripods/Bipods/Quadpods can be a sustainable and cost-effective way to cook compared to camp stoves that require fuel canisters.
- Lightweight and Portable: Many Tripods/Bipods/Quadpods fold up for compact storage and transport, making them ideal for overlanding or car camping trips. Varies considerably based on design.
- Open Fire Cooking Experience: Tripods/Bipods/Quadpods enhance the traditional campfire cooking experience.
- Simple and Versatile: Elevated campfire cooking stands are easy to set up and use. They can hold a variety of pot sizes, Dutch ovens, grates, and grills, making them suitable for many camp cooking tasks.
- Fuel Efficient: By using firewood, Tripods/Bipods/Quadpods can be a sustainable and cost-effective way to cook compared to camp stoves that require fuel canisters.
- Lightweight and Portable: Many Elevated campfire cooking stands fold up for compact storage and transport, making them ideal for overlanding or car camping trips. The design of these stands varies considerably.
- Open Fire Cooking Experience: Tripods/Bipods/Quadpods enhance the traditional campfire cooking experience.
- Less Precise Heat Control: While adjustable, Tripods/Bipods/Quadpods don't offer the fine-tuned heat control you get with a camp stove.
- Uneven Cooking: Depending on the fire size and pot placement, you might encounter hot spots and uneven cooking.
- Requires Fire Management Skills: A good campfire is key for successful Tripods/Bipods/Quadpods cooking.
- Stability on Uneven Terrain: Tripods/Bipods/Quadpods legs may require adjustment or additional support on uneven ground.
- Not Great for Windy Conditions: Wind can affect the fire and make cooking more challenging.
- Potentially Not Leave No Trace Compatible: Tripods/Bipods/Quadpods are often used over ground campfires that can leave long-lasting marks on the environment. These impacts can be mitigated if a firepan or similar device is used in conjunction with the Tripods/Bipods/Quadpods.t
- Less Precise Heat Control: Most Elevated Cooking Stands have limited or no adjustability, which means that head control is accomplished via fire controlTripods/Bipods/Quadpods don't offer the fine-tuned heat control you get with a camp stove.
- Uneven Cooking: Depending on the fire size and pot placement, you might encounter hot spots and uneven cooking.
- Requires Fire Management Skills: A good campfire is key for successful Tripods/Bipods/Quadpods cooking.
- Stability on Uneven Terrain: Tripods/Bipods/Quadpods legs may require adjustment or additional support on uneven ground.
- Not Great for Windy Conditions: Wind can affect the fire and make cooking more challenging.
- Potentially Not Leave No Trace Compatible: Elevated Cooking Stands are often used over ground campfires that can leave long-lasting marks on the environment. These impacts can be mitigated if a firepan or similar device is used in conjunction with the Elevated Cooking Stand.
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Equipment: There are hundreds of sources of this equipment, and it can be found via your favorite browser.
Recipes: There are hundreds of sources for recipes for cooking using a Tripod/Bipod/Quadpod or Cooking Stand over an open fire. Most traditional recipes can be adapted to this method of cooking.
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The middle of nowhere is somewhere I'd prefer to be.
"If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them something more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it."- Lyndon B. Johnson, President of the United States
Re: OAUSA Net - April 4, 2024 - Outdoor Cooking (and indoors too)
KK6CTT for the online check-in...
Five pieces of firearm legislation in CA are ominous although one (TWO...follow-up 04/25/24) of the five was "gut and amended" and no longer moving forward.
Five pieces of firearm legislation in CA are ominous although one (TWO...follow-up 04/25/24) of the five was "gut and amended" and no longer moving forward.
- SB 1160 (gut and amended on 04/09 with adjustments up for review on 04/23), required that a person register each firearm in their possession at the initial cost of $250 per firearm and $125 per firearm each year after. More information: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvHB8Cuck7A&t=21s
- AB 3064, Firearm Safety Devices, like the CA handgun roster, all safety devices have to be approved for use and on the safety device "roster."
- SB 53, Firearm Storage, all firearms must be stored in a CA DOJ approved safe in the home.
- SB 1253, Firearm Safety Certificate requiring all owners have a "current and valid" certificate when you have firearms in your possession. Now you only need the card to show you understand basic CA firearm laws and safety when purchasing a firearm. Passed out of Senate Public Safety
- SB 3067 (reported "gut and amended"), Requires Insurance Companies to ascertain if you own firearms and where they are stored (reporting to the State Insurance Commissioner when there are discrepancies in reporting).
- For more breaking news: https://crpa.org/news/
- AB 2571 "Youth Marketing" blocked 04/12/24. Safari Club International v. Bonta was Enjoined by Judge Dale A. Drozd, this law cannot be enforced by the state of CA and was appealed to the 9th Circuit Court. It was signed into law in JUN of 2022. This law negatively impacted all youth shooting sports/programs.
- SB 2 substantially changed requirements for concealed carry in CA (restrictive). A DOJ emergency implementation of cancelling those who could provide training for CCW applications and renewals found NRA instructors no longer qualified to sign-off on CCW training which created a chokepoint where applications and renewals almost came to a standstill. A reversal on the emergency order and pushback from the 2A community and CA sheriffs created a path to reinstating prior instructors as trainers. A CA CCW convention where 57 of the 58 county sheriffs helped to bring about this change.
- Saving the Mule Deer on Catalina Island from irradiation. Conservation management takes on the Catalina Conservancy who were arguing in favor of irradicating the mule deer on Catalina. Read more here: https://crpa.org/news/blogs/crpa-still- ... -catalina/
- On 01 JUL 2024, the tax goes into effect. Most do not know how the extra tax will look to consumers but there have been a lot of people trying to get there last large purchases in before July 1st.
- The problem with this tax and the fact the legislature approved it, is no one has been effected by it until it is implemented and therefore, there is no "standing" to bring a case against the state or DOJ until that has been established. We'll see how this one progresses, but until then, make those pre-tax purchases.
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Re: OAUSA Net - April 4, 2024 - Outdoor Cooking (and indoors too)
Announcement: Big Bear Hamcation, 26-28 APR 2024: https://bigbearminihamcation.com/
There is a great lineup of speakers, topics and events (schedule): https://bigbearminihamcation.com/schedule/
Cooking in general...
Really quick:
There is a great lineup of speakers, topics and events (schedule): https://bigbearminihamcation.com/schedule/
Cooking in general...
Really quick:
- If you don't have a chart for coal briquette amount and distribution: Diameter of the Dutch oven x 2. Then use one-third + two-third for bottom and top respectively. E.G., 12" DI x 2 = 24 briquettes needed. Divide 24 by 3 = 8; 8 briquettes for the bottom of the DI and 16 for the lid.
- Turn the DI 180°every 15 minutes while indexing the lid back to its original position each time. This is done to insure you do not burn or scortch the food because you have a more intense briquette heat in one or another location. Kind of like
- My "egg pizza" is, what I understand, closely related to the Frittata cooking technique. I did not know of Frittata cooking, but I was trying to emulate a "quiche" style meal out in the field, and I think my technique closely resembles a failed attempt at quiche/frittata with a positive (although mistaken) learning curve along the way that gave way to our family's "egg pizza."
- Watching and learning is part of cooking in general. The things that taste good at home, fresh out of the oven like grandma used to make, should be the same recipes attempted in the field. The parts that make the meal, like cheesy gooey goodness, can be emulated in some form or fashion at the campsite. Learn the "make or break" "rules" and run with the creative "oh that was good" although unintentional...short of burning, or making people sick, it all has good to great potential!
- When in doubt, get a bigger cast iron skillet. Don't crowd your food if you intend to get things cooked well. Learn to read the flame/heat and the surface temperature of the cookware to avoid burning and scorching, sometimes the recovery can add to the flavor and texture of the finished product...if you are lucky!
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Re: OAUSA Net - April 4, 2024 - Outdoor Cooking (and indoors too)
Outdoor Cooking With The Pressure Cooker
Having camped for quite a number of years, I have seen and used many types of cooking styles and devices, and if there is one take away from my experiences, it is that it is the chef that makes the difference. Great meals are possible from just about every style and method. For me, the method that I use exclusively now is the pressure cooker.
When it comes to the topic of food at camp, in the wilderness, I start by selecting the meals that I enjoy the most at home. Since I have settled on the pressure cooker for the preparation of all of my camping dinner meals, the next task is to find pressure cooker recipes, and then home test my favorites. When I find the right ones, I add them to my growing list of camp meals.
One benefit of pressure cookers that goes completely unnoticed and unappreciated by the cook, his helpers, and those in or near the kitchen, is the redundancy of safety devices that are built into every cooker. Unlike pressure cookers of the 40s and 50s, today's are vastly safer. My current cooker has three pressure release locations, and in the event of an over pressure condition, the last line of pressure release will be when the cooker "blows the gasket." Although disabling the cooker, the benefits are obvious. Aside from this benefit, here are the others that I have appreciated:
The pressure cooker ready for dinner.
Dinner on the Rim
While I have several favorites, there are at least three that have risen to the top. The ingredients listed do not include quantity, and if requested, I will add that information.
Having camped for quite a number of years, I have seen and used many types of cooking styles and devices, and if there is one take away from my experiences, it is that it is the chef that makes the difference. Great meals are possible from just about every style and method. For me, the method that I use exclusively now is the pressure cooker.
When it comes to the topic of food at camp, in the wilderness, I start by selecting the meals that I enjoy the most at home. Since I have settled on the pressure cooker for the preparation of all of my camping dinner meals, the next task is to find pressure cooker recipes, and then home test my favorites. When I find the right ones, I add them to my growing list of camp meals.
One benefit of pressure cookers that goes completely unnoticed and unappreciated by the cook, his helpers, and those in or near the kitchen, is the redundancy of safety devices that are built into every cooker. Unlike pressure cookers of the 40s and 50s, today's are vastly safer. My current cooker has three pressure release locations, and in the event of an over pressure condition, the last line of pressure release will be when the cooker "blows the gasket." Although disabling the cooker, the benefits are obvious. Aside from this benefit, here are the others that I have appreciated:
- The entire meal can be prepared in one pot
- the pressure cooker is not affected by altitude
- since the pot is sealed, more of the nutrients remain in the food
- the pressure used to cook also infuses great flavor to the food
- meals can be fully cooked in a fraction of the time by other methods, (saves fuel and time)
- meals are served piping hot and remain so for the duration of the meal (especially appreciated when the weather turns cold and for those who wish seconds)
- The list of menu items is short and simple
- the pressure cooker takes up no more room that any other pot
- GREAT FLAVOR FOR GREAT MEALS
The pressure cooker ready for dinner.
Dinner on the Rim
While I have several favorites, there are at least three that have risen to the top. The ingredients listed do not include quantity, and if requested, I will add that information.
- Chicken Adobo - cooks in 12 minutes
chicken thighs
soy sauce
white wine vinegar
garlic
chipotles in adobo sauce
onions
bay leaves
water
olive oil
- Beef Stroganoff - cooks in 20 minutes
cubed beef (preferably filet)
olive oil
flour
onions
garlic
beef broth
mushrooms
tomato paste
Worcestershire sauce
egg noodles
biscuits
sour cream
Red wine
- Beef Stew - cooks in 12 minutes
cubed beef (preferably filet)
flour
salt and pepper
olive oil
onions
beef broth
bay leaves
sage
potatoes
carrots
celery
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